Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Hughes panel discussion in Vegas Thursday night
Paul Winn, Bob McCaffery and I will be at the Springs Preserve from 6:30-8 on Thursday evening to discuss Howard Hughes' life and legacy in Las Vegas. Paul worked for Hughes for many years and is becoming known as someone who is not shy about rebutting wild speculations about Hughes. Bob is very knowledgeable about Hughes, especially his exploits in the aviation field. I wrote a book about Hughes' years in Las Vegas. The moderator will be Lynn Zook, who coordinates the Springs Preserve's "Untold Stories" series. There is a fee to attend.
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I would call Paul's "refutation of wild rumors" more like, a : convenient position to kiss up to those now controlling the Hughes money. Paul had a way of doing that all during his career, in my opinion. And Geoff, have they offered you a postion with the organization???? Or do you already have one???
This particular "Anonymous" is really annoying. You regularly present not an ounce of evidence that you know anything at all about the subject matter except to baldly accuse people of things that have no relation to reality. Why would the Hughes organization — there really isn't one anymore at all — offer me a position? That's just silly nonsense. And why would Paul Winn feel the need to kiss up to anybody at this point in his life? Certainly he had a long association with the Hughes organization, and you might suspect that he's holding back some things out of loyalty or whatever. But at this point, what exactly does he have to be afraid of? Conspiracy theories probably made some sense before Hughes died and perhaps for a while afterward, but in 2009? Please.
Then why the dissing of anyone who does not follow the party line?? I have personally interviewed over 10 people who saw Hughes during the period he was suppossed to be holed up and all were more beleivable than you or Paul. The press has reported at least 20 others. Your an Paul's suggestion that these common people are lying or somehow deluded is simply preposterous!!!
I suggest that you an Paul refusing to give any credence to the multitude of common citizens who have testified to seeing, and talking to Howard during the time when the Mormon mafia said he was sequestered in the penthouse, is silly nonsens. Paul's need to kiss up is due to in my opinion his culpibility and he needs to come clean.
Those secrets he still holds are probably the only reason they have left him alive. Considering how few are left with personal knowledge, and how many who had that knowledge have died of cancer, I further suggest that Paul is the next likely target. He looks like he has cancer, if he doesn't have it, he should check out his house with a Geiger counter, in my opinion. The principles are deserting like a flood, distancing themselves from Hughes businesses and interests, trying to increase the amount of property transferss so as to save themselves prosecution. Paul may well have some hard evidence, and those prominent figures who it could damage are not know for their half measures or their sympathy either.
My contruibuion to the subject matter is called into question because I don't bow to you two and give you for free, what I have earned with my blood. Paul wants to meet in private!! I would feel safer kissing a cobra!! Why pray tell, should I let you and Paul profit from my expense??? Further, I don't make a habit of telling the opposition my plans!
Geoff, have you ever pulled the corporation papers of your employers to find out who you really work for. It might be enlighting! They are required to file all the officers names and address with the state in the capital.
In my opinion, Paul's self confessed switching of loyalties will make those who can be damaged by Hughes revelations, wonder at his further usefullness. His only chance at this point is to switch loyalities again and reveal his proof of what we have been discussing. If not to me, then to the real estate company who stands to lose so much. A change of heirship of this magnitude would be very profitable to them, in my opinion.
Ok, you got to know when to ante and when to raise.
I'll raise you and Paul and see if ya got the guts or the will to call.
1. I propose we petition Barrack Obama to order the Hughes FBI file released to the press without redactions, especially the 1950's, (the time of the heir question.
2. If you'll notice in the FBI files, the CIA asked for a name check on Hughes and for the FBI's information on him. That means, they too had a file on Hughes, let's start a petition to get Barrack Obama to declassify that file and right the awful wrong done. I will even offer to absolve the Federal Gov of their complicity in the affair, and agree not to sue them.
3. We petition Barrack Obama to release to the public any and all information gathered by spooks in Moscow, when they were hauling off KGB files in trucks, during the toppling of the USSR. I am fairly certain they have a complet copy of the KGBs file on Howard.
Want to join this petition or do I smell a couple of chickens, wanting to waffle when their bluff is called???? Hey?? I can't hear that! lol
I personally interviewed, Bonnie of Bonnie Springs:, A casino operator for Howard, Several close friend of Gordan Margouilis who said in private he confirmed that Hughes was often out of the penthouse,(spelled wrong I know) and number of others who swear they saw him on various occasions.
A post that was attempted to be buried by two quick posts, Now ask your self why Geoff would do that?? Time to ak yourself, WHO DO I TRUST!!!
This is from the post down the front page "Another unlikely Story" about a person who claims to have talked to and met Hughes.
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Another prime example of a perfectly believable citizen, being dissed simply because they claim to have met Hughes. I have come to totally believe that as one of the witnesses and a Hughes aide was prepared to swear in the Dumars case, that the aides and whoever was directing them from the CIA, met and agreed to deny any stories of Hughes being out to the penthouse or meeting anyone during the 70's.
Now are we to believe that this "multitude of citizenry" are lying or that the Hughes aides were? The integrity of the Hughes aides has been proven faulty in a multiplicity of manners both in court and out, while the entire fabric of American life has been entrusted to the integrity of the common citizenry, by entrusting the vote to them. I suggest that to deny the vericity of so many is to deny the validity of the United States itself!! And anyone stupid enough to believe this diversion of truth is liable to wake up to a dictatorship one day.
October 31, 2009 12:09 PM
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Seems George Washington, Tom Jefferson and all the founding fathers got it wrong when they trusted the citizens at large! Hey Geoff and Paul?
Just one observation on this rambling series of aggressive and unstable rants:
I have an open mind about all things Howard Hughes. I don't have anything to lose or gain by hiding or ignoring anything. In fact, I am open to the idea that Hughes might have left the Desert Inn between 1966-70. But the reality is that I have yet to find a credible witness or any credible evidence that he left. I need someone with credibility and with a story that at least makes an ounce of sense. I, too, have talked to lots of people who say they saw Hughes during this period, but in not a single instance have I found a credible, reliable witness, based both on their personal credibility and, more important, the believability of their story. Bonnie of Bonnie Springs Ranch is a great old gal but I'd hardly consider her vague stories to be reliable. The doctor in Reno is another matter, though even if he did meet with Hughes at the D.I., which I doubt, the encounter amounted to next to nothing. What can we glean of historical or any other value from this, presuming it happened? Very little.
I have the sense that if Howard Himself rose from the dead and testified, you and Paul would find him to be unstable and rambling and uncredible!
You two have reached the point of sheer ridiculousness. Paul's credibility in my opinion is nill, simply due to the number of times he has switched loyalties and the number of years he managed to kiss up to the various power brokers.
I spent quite a while with Bonnie (I only name her because the Spring Ranch exhibit already has) and others (I don't name them because I fear for their safety) and she even signed your book with a stable hand. She was old but by no means insane or unstable. She is far more credible than a bunch of aides and Mormons that feed a decrepit man drugs and manipulated life time contracts out of him. Those are credible facts that can't be denied. In fact, Geoff I find her by far more credible than either you or Paul. I also walked the short distance between her place and Spring Ranch and did not base my analysis on Hughes' use of her facilities because of it's proximity to Jean on fantasy. Seems I have done a ton of footwork and you've done a ton of swallowing the party line.
Yes I am aggressive, (squeaky door: lol)for good reason. I have had my hair cut by an assassin's bullet and had another hired killer follow me into the woods. If it takes me rattling every cage from London to LA, I will make your teeth rattle till the real truth comes out about what really happened. This is a job you should be doing, but are too wimpy to do! Fine! You and Paul keep collecting your lecture checks, and patting one another on the back, and you will hear nothing else from me until I serve a summons!
You are obviously trying to get me to stop posting, I will, and then tell me, who else even gives a flip about your blog? I do know two FBI agents read it regularly. Now even they will be bored stiff!
Thank you very much!
In watching this discussion: I have noticed that Paul and Geoff have avoided taking any position:
Anonymous: they are playing you for information: IMHO
Notice how he distracted you from the offer to actually do something constructive by trying to get the Hughes records released. You can take that as an indication that neither is interested in the truth or in actually finding new proof, wise to leave it alone, you are being played. Your URLs are likely being traced and they are baiting you to keep posting! Just a word to the wise!
At the the point where your actions will create the most energy and benefit for yourself and others!
Have someone who is going to Nogales, MX pick you up an alpaca poncho (Got mine for $16)
. For arthritis, Bursititis and general body aches, it's an amazing thing. Just wrap yourself up in it and somehow you feel the ache start to fade. Don't know how it works but my wife and I would be lost without ours (she has whole body joint deterioation).
Something big is about to happen, feel it in my bones!
So what you got against our yellow cars! rofl
Heard in a recent conversation in which both Jean Peters and Howard Hughes family members participated. (recorded)
Jean Family member: "Jean never had any childern." Another participate who was with Howard in the 50's. "Well at least she didn't have any childern in the 50's by Howard."
The upshot is that she DID have childern, and that both familys were LEAD TO BELEIVE they/it wasn't Howard's. Match this with the FBI file recording of a possible 10 million dollar black mail attempt, posted on here by Anonymous, and you have an interesting stiutation. I agree that we should all ask the president to declasify all material about Howard Hughes without editing. If they don't then they will be liable as a govenment and personally in the alleged conspirisy to defraud.
Attention Anonymous:
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2009/12/sprint-fed-customer-gps-data-to-leos-over-8-million-times.ars
Above is an article from a reporter who recorded a Sprint manager detailing just how easy it is to access ALL (TOTALLY ALL) the use of a customer's cell phone. It is a sure bet that ALL the companies let them do this. If you think Geoff and Paul don't have a cooperative law enforcement officer trying to track you, you're deluded. These guys could be the very thing that is getting you shot at! Think about it!
Just road tripped up the entire Mississippi Valley and when thinking about it, was amazed how many sterilizing items I saw in hotels, homes and resturants: I was using hand sanitizer at my house of worhip when it hit me that the general public was now doing a lot of the same things they called Howard lunatic for! Seems to me, the lunatics were those who wouldn't listen to him and who feed a genuis, 50 years ahead of his time enough dope to cause him to waste away. ANYONE who was priviy to that crime is guilty of accessory to murder, in my opinion.
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